Water accumulation port settee

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   Hi all,
I recently noticed some water accumulation in an area I'd never noticed: the port settee just forward of the stove.  This is the small triangular shaped berth where the water tank goes (mine was removed long ago and never replaced so nope, thats not the source of the leak.)

After a weekend trip where we had minimal rain and motored the whole way (no heeling), I noticed the water.  I'm pretty sure it wasnt there a few days prior but am not 100% positive.  The water had absorbed into the wood of the cabinet side panel by the stove and the wood had swelled and smelled musty, so perhaps it had been there a while.

Inspection of the hull's interior demonstrated no water streaks or indications of water intrusion.

I cleaned up the water and put a fan to it for a few days.  The pictures below are from after I dried it out:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/e7ff2LZMrPxz3wiUA

Anyone have any thoughts as to where this water could have come from?

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Winner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commodore Joined: 07 September 2011 Status: Offline Points: 222	Post Options Post Reply Quote Winner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Water accumulation port settee Posted: 06 July 2021 at 11:59pm
	Hi all, I recently noticed some water accumulation in an area I'd never noticed: the port settee just forward of the stove. This is the small triangular shaped berth where the water tank goes (mine was removed long ago and never replaced so nope, thats not the source of the leak.) After a weekend trip where we had minimal rain and motored the whole way (no heeling), I noticed the water. I'm pretty sure it wasnt there a few days prior but am not 100% positive. The water had absorbed into the wood of the cabinet side panel by the stove and the wood had swelled and smelled musty, so perhaps it had been there a while. Inspection of the hull's interior demonstrated no water streaks or indications of water intrusion. I cleaned up the water and put a fan to it for a few days. The pictures below are from after I dried it out: https://photos.app.goo.gl/e7ff2LZMrPxz3wiUA Anyone have any thoughts as to where this water could have come from?
	Chris Eclipse #240 Thunder Bay, ON

fatjohnz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commodore Joined: 05 August 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 304	Post Options Post Reply Quote fatjohnz Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 July 2021 at 8:07am
	Hi Chris, My ice box and sink drains have some leaks. So when the thru-hull is closed, the water backs up and the hose fittings leak. Then the water can make it's way forward. I have reconfigured so the sink goes to the thru-hull and is normally closed. The icebox is drained by a free hose with an in-line shutoff which I take to the bilge or a bucket when I want to drain it. With this config there is no chance to get sea water pumping into the ice box from an open seacock. john

Winner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commodore Joined: 07 September 2011 Status: Offline Points: 222	Post Options Post Reply Quote Winner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 July 2021 at 12:01pm
	I haven't experienced any leaks in the drain under my sink or icebox. There was no water in the cabinet area there. Both my icebox and sink hoses drain down to a t-connector then to the thru hull under the sink. I also experience the same issue if the thru hull is open, when we're hard over on starboard tack, water siphons up and partially fills the icebox. But being on Lake Superior (cold, fresh water) we've learned that so long as we only put cans of beer in there and not food, then it chills the beer for us by the end of the race :-)
	Chris Eclipse #240 Thunder Bay, ON

Mad Max Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Skipper Joined: 18 June 2010 Location: Buffalo NY Status: Offline Points: 55	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mad Max Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2021 at 7:10am
	Hi Chris Have you checked to see if you have good deck to hull seal in that area. Water can be channeled in if the rub rail has been compromised.
	Dick #122

Winner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commodore Joined: 07 September 2011 Status: Offline Points: 222	Post Options Post Reply Quote Winner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2021 at 9:03am
	I was thinking that'd be the next step. Spray a hose along the rub rail in that area and see if water comes in...
	Chris Eclipse #240 Thunder Bay, ON

Foghorn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 24 August 2002 Location: Montreal, QC Status: Offline Points: 120	Post Options Post Reply Quote Foghorn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 July 2021 at 11:45am
	It could be the shroud chainplates, hull deck joint or window. Normally there is a check valve in the sink/ice box drain hose close to the through hull.
	Paul White Decompression CAN 214

Comet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Crew Joined: 21 August 2018 Status: Offline Points: 25	Post Options Post Reply Quote Comet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 July 2021 at 1:21pm
	And after you figure out if it is the hull joint leaking, someone can post how to fix that! I'm still back on broken hatch (crew stepped on it when it was partially open ...... UGH) replacement. Much support on that from the Ontario Laser 28 FB folks!