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Bill Layton
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How do you know the fuel lift pump is moving fuel thru the system? You can have fuel at the injector while the low pressure side doesn't have enough pressure. Initially anyways.
Was anything done to the fuel system or engine before this started? Why was there a linkage problem? Is the fuel shut off selonoid working correctly? Also you shouldn't use ether on a diesel as it's too volatile and can blow the rings off the piston... use WD40 instead Edited by Bill Layton - 06 May 2015 at 9:07am |
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fatjohnz
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Can I pick your brain?
I launched the boat and fired the engine. It fired right up at high speed. I shut it down to correct a linkage problem. I fired it again and it idled fine for a minute then I shut it down to get ready to make way. Then it would not restart. I hit it with starter fluid multiple times and it would run for a few seconds then quit. Fuel pump is moving fuel thru the system fine and I checked that fuel can bleed out up at the injector. So my only guess is that my injector is clogged, whatever that means. How does one clear an injector? thanks, John |
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fatjohnz
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Does anyone have a copy of the electrical that that is more clear than the online manuals. I can't read the colors or the component names. thx
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fatjohnz
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Edited by fatjohnz - 22 April 2020 at 8:38am |
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frfletch
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Great idea. I am a strong believer in that little engine. I did have to re-build mine a few years ago, but it was not that difficult and it runs perfectly and starts immediately every time. Of all the modern sail drive/engine combinations, I still think the Bukh is the best for our Laser.
I dream of swapping out the diesel for a 10-15 hp 4-cycle outboard power head adapted to the Bukh sail drive to try saving about 50 lbs, but don't really have the time for it and I just love the economy and reliability of the Bukh diesel. |
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fatjohnz
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I contacted Dieter as Bill suggested. Dieter had pulled the Bukh from his Laser28 and replaced it. I'm going to swap in the salvage engine(and hope it lasts for a while), and I'm going to attempt to rebuild the original motor. js
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frfletch
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What did you finally do in your engine replacement? Did you abandon the Bukh, or did you re-build yours?
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fatjohnz
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The replacement engine has broken the bank for this season. If anyone is desperate to get rid of a racing main with a season left in it, I might be interested. js
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fatjohnz
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Bill , thanks for the info on the forestay.
I'm going to pull the engine and I could use any hints or tips or removal sequence that you have to make this easier. I read a post with a trick for lifting the engine but the details were not in the post. If you would PM me or email me at fatjohnz28 at gmail dot com much apprciated, john |
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Bill Layton
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Dieter Adolphs had a complete engine/ SD for sale. PM me if you want his contact info
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fatjohnz
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Checked w/ MikeM earlier today and the engine and sail drive already sold.
Keith from Crinmar wants to take a look at mine so the dead head is on its way to Ontario.... Thanks for the offer MikeV but its boxed and gone. js |
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Mike V
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Can you send me a picture. I will check with they guys at UWP. These guys do very good work. If anyone can fix it , it would be them. I watched them repair a broken crankshaft from a ship. They are very popular with the local shops.
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Bill Layton
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How about that fellow parting his boat out? Perhaps you could acquire the engine from him. Just an idea.
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fatjohnz
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Found another motor-head guru. Not looking good; he said welding this spot is not a option.... paper thin metal and not accessible w/ the tig.
He said a long shot would be to drill an access hole though the outer body into the water jacket to access to compromised area from behind. Bead-blast and apply epoxy from behind. Then close the access hole with a pipe tap. Crinmar said head-bodies are no longer available from Buhk. I've got that sinking feeling.... |
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frfletch
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Yes. Silicon bronze brazing to exhaust side.
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fatjohnz
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The head made it to the machine shop and they cleaned up the valve seats and checked it out. Everything is good now -except- they found compromised structure between the exhaust port and the adjacent water jacket. He said if it was on the intake side, he would seal it with epoxy but did not believe epoxy would hold up on the exhaust side due to temp. Any suggestions? he told me to look for a replacement head body... thx, john
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frfletch
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Don't use a screwdriver. You will end up with burrs on both the head and top of cylinder. Make a plastic wedge as Bill suggests using nylon or P.E. The best way to have removed your head would have been to remove the injector nozzle, stick a skinny screwdriver into the hole to feel the top of the piston then turn the flywheel until the piston is at the bottom. Then, use some gear oil and put it in the hole where the nozzle fits. Replace the nozzle, loosen the four bolts holding the head and cylinder about 1/4", place some towels at the bottom, and crank the engine over with the ignition. The head will blow off without force. However, now that the seal is cracked, you will likely have to continue using wedges.
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Bill Layton
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Yeah some heads are seized in place by the carbon buildup on the studs. I've done approx. 12 head jobs and 50% of them are like this. I made plastic wedges from UHMW plastic and hammered the daylights out of them and it still can take a few hours to get off. Have patience it'll take some time but there is nothing else holding it in place.... just corrosion and carbon
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fatjohnz
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I removed the 4 nuts, exhaust, fuel, and water. Then cracked the joint by pounding a putty knife into it. It still didn't release all the way. Hopefully there is nothing internal holding it up and I can go after it with a flat bar? I didn't have the heart to pound a screwdriver into the joint. thx, john
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Bill Layton
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You could do that but any engine shop should be able to pressure test the head and verify if it overheated and became warped or cracked etc. Crinmar sends it out to someone else for this service.
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