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Mike V 
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 Topic: Considering a laserPosted: 19 August 2012 at 6:58pm |
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I am considering moving down to a trailerable boat. I think the laser is a good choice. I would like to know a few experiences of long distance racing. I currently own a C&C 35 mk III. My plan for the boat is a few regattas and some long distance races like the LO 300 and the Mac. My 35 is sitting at the dock more than I would like. I also crew on my long time friends J24 and I recently took part ownership of a star. One design racing is the way I see my racing moving to. I would also like to cruise for a week in the summer.
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WarBird
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Posted: 19 August 2012 at 7:49pm |
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Mike,
you'll get hammered in the mac. the orr number is pretty tough unless you measure your own boat. ($$$) L28 is great boat and if you are camp crusing with one or two others you will have a blast. |
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WarBird
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Posted: 19 August 2012 at 7:55pm |
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Update, Mac will be fun, figure how to crew up six so the sleep cycles exeeds 2off , three 0n. Way Cool race. Have a reacher, a runnner, figure how to rig a straysail and get a jib top built. Your inventory will exceed the value of the boat but you wil likely be the shortest and modst certainly the lightest boat inj the fleet. PM me or e-mail warbirdsail@charter.net
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Mike V
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Posted: 19 August 2012 at 9:40pm |
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I was thinking the bayview mac phrf. I have raced the LO300 seven times. Three times double handed. The 35 is a good boat for distance racing but it is too hard to do some out of area racing. I know here on lake Ontario they can sail to their rating. The Chicago Mac does sound interesting.
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Mike V
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Posted: 02 September 2012 at 9:29am |
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Does anyone have the height of a laser on the cradle. Just thinking about transportation
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Posted: 02 September 2012 at 10:02pm |
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Roughly 12'.
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Mike V
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Posted: 14 January 2013 at 1:45pm |
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So my C&C 35 is for sale. Hopefully it sells and I can pick up a Laser. How do people work around towing a Laser 28. It is over width. Do I use flags and a wide load sign or do people just hook it up and go?
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Posted: 14 January 2013 at 8:58pm |
My Laser28 is on a trailer, but I've yet to tow it. I do know however that where I live (Ontario), it is slightly overwidth and a special permit is required to transport it. |
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frfletch
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Posted: 14 January 2013 at 9:54pm |
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We have one that was towed from Ontario to BC in 2006 with no special provisions and no problems. Additionally in the last 18 months we have brought one Arkansas, and another from Texas with no incident nor stops by authorities.
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Bill Layton
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Posted: 14 January 2013 at 11:41pm |
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I've also trailered to many locations and the rules of the road state max allowable beam is 8.5 ft. The L28 is 9.6ft so we are a wide load. Technically we are required to get permits/wide load signs and (escorts in some states) in every state/province, but in reality no one does this. The closest I came was going thru a toll booth in the USA and the guard looked up and said this is too wide!.... he could see it and I flatly denied it and said I was exactly 8.5ft and blamed it on the shape of the boat and they let me thru.
Be warned if you use a commercial truck ( a vehicle with company name on it) be prepared to be inspected at the weigh-in stops in Ontario. I have seen a fellow L28er pulled over for this and he got nailed for a wide load and fined. Hope this helps
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Posted: 15 January 2013 at 8:44am |
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I have towed some in WI and MI, though not all over like Bill has. Width never an issue. The perception from the ground level is decieving, the trailer is legal width I think. I've pretty much stayed a reasonable speeds and no one pays any attention to you.
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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 3:54pm |
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I towed mine from Denver, CO to Flathead Lake, MT (2 days) with no problems. However, after the fact, I have heard that if you don't obtain permits (if indeed it is required), your insurance company may deny your claim if you were to have an incident on the road. Also I heard that in some states you can't pull "wide" loads on Sundays. I am sure if you look hard enough, there will be some reason to have a permit.
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Posted: 16 January 2013 at 10:23pm |
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Check costs, they may be minimal, just time spent searching
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Mike V
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Posted: 07 April 2013 at 8:29am |
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Well I pulled the trigger and purchased a Laser. It has a launch trailer. Does anyone really ramp launch on of these boats? I was thinking I might cut it off the trailer. It would lighten up the trailer and give it more road clearance. I think I am in trouble with the admiral for owning multiple boat. I still own the C&C 35. The boat is for sale with a couple of interested parties. If anyone is interested, It is a very well equipped 35. Let me know.
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Bill Layton
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Posted: 07 April 2013 at 8:58am |
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Congrats Mike V,
Can we ask which boat you bought and where your home port is? You mentioned Lake Ontario. We have some pretty big events here in Montreal that we hope you'll consider. Also there is the Nepean One design in Ottawa. The one design events will get you up to speed quickly.
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Mike V
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Posted: 07 April 2013 at 9:29am |
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I am going to be sailing out of Newport Yacht club on Lake Ontario. I am planning on Trailering it to events. Both the NA and Napean event are on my radar. I was looking for a quick boat with good headroom. That eliminated Olsen30, hobie 33 etc. The L28 is lighter to tow. I purchased hull No 182. I also started racing with my friend John on his J24 (no comfort there) and I have 1/2 ownership in a star(drinking accident). I am in a little trouble with the admiral! |
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Bill Layton
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Posted: 07 April 2013 at 4:16pm |
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Excellent Mike, I'm sure you'll enjoy the close racing. The ramp launching part of your trailer is best removed. It was an option from the factory for owners who needed it, but in reality, it was very hard to use and most owners circumvented its use once they had tried it and ended up removing it.
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Mike V
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Posted: 12 April 2013 at 8:15pm |
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Where or who do I contact to join the Laser 28 class association?
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Bill Layton
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Posted: 12 April 2013 at 11:03pm |
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Information PM'd to you mike.
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